Showing posts with label Detroit Tigers. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Detroit Tigers. Show all posts

Tuesday, 12 November 2013

Trading José Bautista

What should a team that's been rebuilding for 20 years do following a high-expectation, low-achievement season?  Well, if you read the media reports that have been dogging the Toronto Blue Jays since midseason, it seems to be to trade away the core of the team.  Before I go any further, let it be known that I am dead-set against trading either José Bautista or Edwin Encarnacion.  To build a team, there must be a central force around which everything else orbits--a core which the fanbase recognizes as its own.  It also determines where the team's strength is and which holes must be filled.  To trade from the core is to declare that core inadequate, which essentially sends a message that all of the hole-fillers are misplaced.

The Blue Jays may be a curious exception to the "inadequacy" argument.  With the acquisitions of a Cy Young Award winning pitcher, a batting champion, and multiple all-stars last season, the Jays expanded their core (or at least the potential "core") to bursting point.  Some may argue that there are too many stars on the team.  I'm not sure about that, but the number of stars does mean that losing one does not mean completely uprooting the franchise again.

To trade José Bautista is not only to surrender the centre of that core, but also a fan favourite, and the first star the Jays have had since Roy Halladay.  Although he's not technically "homegrown", he didn't come into his own, or really show any kind of potential, until he had spent some time in Toronto, and for that he feels as close to homegrown as one can get without actually being.  The Jays lack talent that is completely "theirs"; that is, developed in-house.  The only remaining homegrown stars are Adam Lind, Casey Janssen, and Brett Cecil, and the former hasn't shown star power in many seasons (and is rumoured to be on the trading block).

But let's say, just for a second, that the Jays did trade Bautista.  What would they get for him?  Better yet, what should they get for him.  Trading Bautista for the sake of trading Bautista is illogical, so what would be worth Alex Anthopoulos and the Blue Jays' while?

Let's start with who might be interested:
Texas seems like a likely candidate, particularly considering their rumoured midseason interest in Toronto's sluggers.  The Rangers probably aren't comfortable with Chris Gentry, Leonys Martin, and Alex Rios as their three outfielders heading into 2014.  Their interest in Bautista will be especially piqued as a result of the loss of Nelson Cruz.  So what can the Jays get from the Rangers?  There would have to be an outfielder coming back, so Martin is a given.  He was baseball's #97 prospect (as per MLB pre-season rankings) this past season and showed good speed in 2013, stealing 36 bases while batting .260 with 8 HR and 49 RBI.  A pitching requirement might see Derek Holland (long rumoured to be a target of Anthopoulos's) coming north of the border.  The lefty was 10-9 in 2013 with a 3.42 ERA and 1.29 WHIP.  As a #4 starter, he would be a solid fit in the Jays' rotation.  That he's been successful against the AL East is an added benefit.  To trade a 4 time all-star and 2 time home run champion would probably require at least one more piece coming to the Jays (although possibly with a small, minor league piece heading to Texas as well).  Perhaps a medium-level prospect such as RHP Cody Buckel or RHP Luke Jackson might fit the bill.
To sum it up:
to TEX: José Bautista, possible average prospect
to TOR: Leonys Martin, Derek Holland, B-grade prospect

Sound like too much for a guy who's been seriously injured the past two seasons?  It is.  But this is the only way Bautista goes anywhere.

We'll ignore teams in serious rebuilds (ie. the Astros) and those with low budgets (ie. the Athletics) as we continue.

So who's next?

The Cubs have been one of baseball's worst teams for a long time, but their infield is shaping up nicely and they may be a couple of big pieces away from contending (albeit in a tough division).  Unfortunately, Chicago may not have the pieces to make a deal.  Toronto's still interested in contending, which means Major League talent is a must--and to trade Major League talent would put the Cubs ten steps back.  Anthony Rizzo would be a must in the deal, and that likely puts the Cubs out of contention in the José Bautista sweepstakes.

The Giants could do with an upgrade on Gregor Blanco, but what would in cost?  Tim Lincecum would be an interesting possibility--and given his recent struggles the Giants would likely be more willing to move him now than previously.  But unless Buster Posey miraculously come available, the Giants don't have much that would upgrade the Jays roster substantially.

The Indians could be interested in bettering right field, currently manned by Drew Stubbs, who batted .233 in 2013.  Justin Masterson had a good season, and the Indians may be unwilling to give up their opening day starter, but with the Jays' need for pitching, he seems like a must-have in a trade.  Including Stubbs in a trade would seem likely, to balance the outfield imbalance which would be created in Toronto.  A deal this big would likely require many parts on behalf of both teams.  Here's a possible scenario:
To Toronto: Justin Masterson, Drew Stubbs, Jason Kipnis, Yan Gomes, a top prospect
to Cleveland: José Bautista, JP Arenbicia, Ryan Goins, a B-grade prospect

Again, Toronto wins this deal by a landslide, but Cleveland is far from left empty-handed.  Beyond Bautista, Ryan Goins showed some gold glove potential at second base last season, and if Arencibia can find his game, he could be an all-star catcher in the future.

The Mets and Pirates may be interested, but lack the Major League talent to close a deal.

The Reds have expressed interest in trading Brandon Phillips, which would fill the Jays' second base hole.  A much larger deal would be required on both sides, likely seeing Arencibia and Ryan Hanigan being exchanged for one another, a pitcher (such as Mat Latos?) coming north, and some prospects changing hands.

If the Royals are interested in a power bat despite their large stadium, a deal could happen.  Eric Hosmer would seem to be a definite part of the trade.  Alternatively, the Jays might try to wrangle gold glover Salvador Perez from Kansas City, although this seems unlikely.  Lorenzo Cain would likely come to Toronto, and there would have to be a pitcher in there somewhere.

If the Tigers wish to upgrade on Andy Dirks, they may look to Bautista.  Max Scherzer is already rumoured to be on the block and would be a likely candidate coming the other way.  Dirks would also have to be part of the deal.  With no other obvious Major League talent to send to Toronto (Alex Avila is not defensively sound enough to effectively replace JP Arencibia), a top prospect would have to round out the deal.

Finally, the White Sox may show some interest.  There have already been rumours of Anthopoulos pursuing Gordon Beckham.  Blue Jays rumours must always be taken with a grain of salt, but if there's truth in it, he could be a central part of the package coming to Toronto.  Either Avisail Garcia or Dayan Viciedo would have to be included, likely the former.  After this, a pitcher, such as Jose Quintana or Hector Santiago would close out a deal.  There have been rumours of the Jays having interest in John Danks, but he is not of high enough quality to be the lone pitcher in the trade.

In the end, I think the most likely scenario would see José Bautista start 2014 with the Jays.  But keep these possibilities in mind as the offseason wears on.

Thursday, 4 July 2013

Blue Jays Quick-Hits: Arencibia; Second Base; Lawrie; Rasmus's Slide; Bautista

J.P. Arencibia took shots at Blue Jays commentators/analysts Dirk Hayhurst and Gregg Zaun on TheFan590 this morning.  I understand that he is frustrated with his poor performance, but this is not the way to express his anger.  This outburst would have been more appropriate if Arencibia's game were being picked apart despite his performing well.  But he is not performing well.  Since picking up 8 HRs and 16 RBI in April with a .253 BA, he has struggled to put together a 15/38/.216 line on the season.  He has struck out 92 times.  And we haven't even started talking about his defence.  I do not care much about the Stolen Bases Against because it is an imperfect statistic, but the Passed Balls and questionable plate coverage are too much.  Not to mention that he calls for way too many pitches outside of the strike zone.  I think JP's tirade just confirmed what his performance already suggested: he needs some time in Buffalo.  I believe he still has options.  Who do they call up?  Maybe recently-signed Ramon Hernandez?

The situation at second base for the Blue Jays is becoming unbearable, with Emilio Bonifacio making another error yesterday.  Early in the season I was willing to give him a chance defensively, but that chance has expired.  Maicer Izturis is performing better of late, but is more suitable as a backup, like Mark DeRosa and Munenori Kawasaki.  If this team wants to contend, it is going to need a REAL second baseman--a true everyday player who is neither a hole in the batting order, nor the field.  Darwin Barney is an interesting option who is presently available.  Although his hitting will not be much of an improvement over the current quartet, he is known for his great defence.  He also may be cheaper than other options, such as Chase Utley or Ian Kinsler.  Utley is getting on and is owed a large sum of money, so it may be in the best interest of the team to avoid him.  Kinsler is the most intriguing option.  With Profar and Andrus up the middle, the Rangers are nearing the end of their need for the former All-Star second baseman.  With a struggling rotation, the team may be interested in rent-a-player RHP Josh Johnson--who, granted, has not had the greatest of seasons, but has history on his side, as well as a familiarity with warm weather.  Toss in a Darren Oliver (who will probably retire at the end of the season) or a Sergio Santos (who really does not fit in the Jays' powerful bullpen, anymore) as well as a prospect or two, and I think this deal could get done.  Such a trade may also see one of the quartet heading to Texas as a backup plan.

As Brett Lawrie recovers from his eerily José-Reyes-esque ankle sprain, one major question arises: should he be recalled?  Lawrie has a lot of heart and an intense attitude--something that has endeared him to some and antagonized him to others--and his glove would be an invaluable asset in the infield, but his bat has been weak all season.  I think he should stay in the Minors until that aspect of his game comes around, otherwise he is more of a liability than an asset.  As for his attitude, while he does go a little overboard on occasion, I do not mind the fire most of the time.  He is still young (23), and the rougher edges will likely soften over time.  He has too much talent to give up on, now.

Colby Rasmus kept his cleats down as he made a good, clean baseball slide into second, last night.  The Tigers are still reeling from a heated series in Tampa, they are upset about how close Cleveland is to them in the standings, and they do not appreciate that their second baseman got injured.  But honestly, they have to suck it up and stop whining.  It was a clean, albeit unfortunate, play.

This is related to an issue I stumbled upon a few weeks ago--long before this Blog existed.  Many people were upset with José Bautista's ejection on June 9th.  I did not mind it.  Bautista has exercised a lot of control this season, arguing much less.  In fact, this was the first time I had seen him argue since early in the season.  Furthermore, as it was the ninth inning and he was unlikely to come up again, there was really no better time to get ejected.  To be honest, the most irritating thing about the whole play was the way John Gibbons downplayed it and calmed the situation rather than trying to keep the fire alive under Edwin Encarnacion, who could have tied the game or even won it, had there still been any energy alive.  The manager MUST get ejected when his star player is ejected.